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20 November 2008 @ 05:49 pm
PSA: Thinking Boxes  
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The phrase "Thinking Outside The Box" is now officially Inside The Box.

Thank you.


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Iridium Wolfiridium_wolf on November 21st, 2008 01:54 am (UTC)
*laughs* I suppose it is, the sentence is even inside a box which is inside an even larger box. ;D
KehzaFox: sciencekfops on November 21st, 2008 02:14 am (UTC)
Thank goodness.

You should've issued that edict years ago!
Tube: Realtoob on November 21st, 2008 03:41 am (UTC)
It WAS issued years ago. Calling the phrase "Thinking Outside the Box" official INSIDE the box is ALSO inside the box.
Taverenstaverens on November 21st, 2008 02:20 am (UTC)
What about "thinking outside the circle"?
Grauph. - haystack on November 21st, 2008 08:27 am (UTC) (Expand)
Hafochafoc on November 21st, 2008 03:29 am (UTC)
Is it? Nuts. I'm going to have to shift my paradigm.

(Do not try to outbuzzword or out-Bargain Bin Paperback Management Theory Book Jargon ME, buster. I work for the Government. :D )
Araquan Skytraceraraquan on November 21st, 2008 04:46 am (UTC)
Just remember to push the clutch in first.
Christopher Bradleycpxbrex on November 21st, 2008 06:09 am (UTC)
Most paradigms are shifted only because older folks die. *shifty eyes* Hey, that's straight out of Kuhn! Really! *ducks*
Hafochafoc on November 23rd, 2008 04:56 am (UTC)
Same thing my profs told me in college, oddly enough. But that's a general thing. Once people form a coherent world view they spend all their mental strength explaining away any facts that disagree with it. And you know what? I bet I'm just as bad that way as anyone else.
Christopher Bradleycpxbrex on November 23rd, 2008 05:12 am (UTC)
I'm not sure that it's going to be true with this generation or in the future. Scientists are growing up with the Kuhnian paradigm shift narrative, and many of them want to change the paradigm. And I think that The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, and the rest of Kuhn's work to the extent I'm familiar with it, is essentially historical. It's descriptive of things that happened in the past, but will not necessarily happen in the future. Paradigms change so fast that, y'know, we're used to it in a way that previous generations couldn't be.

Also, I think, the teaching of science, itself, has changed. You read someone like, say, Newton and he fully expected that the Principia would be perfect and eternal, like Euclid's Geometry. Nowadays, scientists go into science with the understanding that all knowledge, including their own work, is provisional.

So, I largely reject the idea that people can't change in that way. Maybe I'm falling prey to ego - heaven knows I do enough of that! - but I see no reason why people need to cling to old ideas in the face of new information. I don't see why it has to be inevitable.
Your Obedient Serpentathelind on November 24th, 2008 06:23 pm (UTC)
And now, Rush quotes:
"Changes aren't permanent -- but change is."
Christopher Bradleycpxbrex on November 24th, 2008 08:59 pm (UTC)
Re: And now, Rush quotes:
I momentarily had a deep terror that you were going to quote Rush Limbaugh. Imagine my pleasure to discover it was a Canadian prog rock band, instead. ;)
Your Obedient Serpent: facepalmathelind on November 24th, 2008 11:16 pm (UTC)
Re: And now, Rush quotes:
When I use "Rush" as a proper noun, it has only one of two meanings. The other is a Coast Guard cutter.
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Helvetica 'Foofers' Boldfoofers on November 21st, 2008 04:28 am (UTC)
How about thinking outside the Klein bottle?
Den: sillydewhitton on November 21st, 2008 04:34 am (UTC)
Here I am stuck with thinking inside the Klein bottle.
Grauph. - haystack on November 21st, 2008 08:27 am (UTC) (Expand)
Christopher Bradleycpxbrex on November 21st, 2008 06:09 am (UTC)
The phrase "Thinking Outside The Box" is now officially Inside The Box.

And has been for about twenty years. But, yeah, I dig the urge to remind people how trite "thinking outside the box" is, hehe. The second it becomes a popular culture phrase, a reasonable guy would have gotten it that it's inside the box, but, y'know . . . the people who quote pithy quotes are rarely that intelligent.
Grauph. - haystack on November 21st, 2008 08:16 am (UTC) (Expand)
Your Obedient Serpent: facepalmathelind on November 21st, 2008 04:31 pm (UTC)
Really? I do some of my best thinking in the can.
Grauph. - haystack on November 21st, 2008 08:21 am (UTC) (Expand)
ebony14 on November 21st, 2008 02:46 pm (UTC)
You know, I don't mind if people think inside the box, outside the box, or even on top of the box. Just so long as they THINK!
Anvil*: Bubblethoughtsdriftby on November 23rd, 2008 05:21 am (UTC)
THINK as motto IBM years past, never caught on in corporate US sadly
too common the borrowing of such such buzzwords to re-label past deficiencies without any intent of change
Hafochafoc on November 23rd, 2008 04:54 am (UTC)
Of course, it occurs to me that I could be thinking on a Mobius strip. But on the flip side...there isn't one.