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11 October 2011 @ 11:59 am
Hivejournal: Food Will All Kill Me Dead.  
What the frak CAN you eat anymore? Meat's bad for you. "Carbs" are bad for you. There we go, that's pretty much every frakkin' organic molecule.
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Kreggankreggan on October 11th, 2011 07:51 pm (UTC)
Your Obedient Serpent: hungryathelind on October 11th, 2011 08:16 pm (UTC)
Since my vegetarian sister has had both thyroid issues and breast cancer (both of which have correlations to soy intake), yeah, I'm inclined to believe it.

I switched to almond milk about a year ago, though not for those reasons (sudden inexpensive availability is the big one; my last doctor telling me to increase my nut intake is another).
Zrath-Smiley: Drinkzrath on October 11th, 2011 10:40 pm (UTC)

Almond milk is quite tasty.
Chocolate almond milk double so. :)

Your Obedient Serpent: copywrongathelind on October 12th, 2011 11:18 pm (UTC)
Being allergic to chocolate, that really WILL kill me dead.
pseudo manitoupseudomanitou on October 12th, 2011 04:23 pm (UTC)
Many such tests done on the harmful effects of soy are in doubt simply because the research was born out of the business war between the soy lobby and the milk lobby.

The solution, however, is simple -- the more processed the soy product, the less harmful compounds are left. Edamame is probably the worst, but as you step up to soymilk, tofu, and miso, the positives outweigh the negatives.

And, of course, balance it out for a moderate intake. Don't use JUST soy for protein. Mix various beans, grains, and oils to get the essentials.

Myself, I only make lunches for work using soy maybe every other week. That's all.
azhdragonazhdragon on October 11th, 2011 10:43 pm (UTC)
eating what amounts to industrial waste is probably not a good idea either.
Araquan Skytracer: Fruity Oaty Bar-Octopusaraquan on October 11th, 2011 07:21 pm (UTC)
Eat what you want, but in reasonable moderation. And don't worry too much.

That's what I do anyway.
Zrath-Smiley: Anubis Marketzrath on October 11th, 2011 07:23 pm (UTC)

Eat the rich! :D

Araquan Skytraceraraquan on October 11th, 2011 07:32 pm (UTC)
Yum. }:9
eggshellhammereggshellhammer on October 11th, 2011 08:16 pm (UTC)
Someday you will die and your flesh will degrade to putresence and ash. All of us will be white noise, irrelevant blips in the face of an uncaring universe.

Eat lean meat, fruits and vegetables, nuts, and carbohydrates with a low glycemic index so they take more time and energy to digest. This will sustain your wafer-thin slice of mortality slightly longer in the face of entropy's all-grinding cosmic boot, and they are delicious om nom nom
Your Obedient Serpentathelind on October 11th, 2011 08:18 pm (UTC)
Yes, THIS.

My new doctor just kinda handwaved at "carbs BAAAAAD", without making distinction between sugars and high-fiber starches.
Pathia Red-Tawnerpathia on October 11th, 2011 09:21 pm (UTC)
That's assuming you can actually eat everything. Some of us are walking minefields of allergies.
Leodrleo on October 11th, 2011 08:34 pm (UTC)
Yeah, what others have said about eating well, and get out and get a little exercise once in awhile. That should help make the years you have a lot more pleasant and enjoyable to live out.

I eat meat, I eat eggs and dairy, but I keep active and mind my health. I have been cutting down on the carbs, but they're not just unilaterally bad. And my blood pressure and cholesterol are low, and I'm in excellent health in the various quantitative ways the medical profession evaluates such things.

Life is fatal. But enduring its death spiral can still be pleasant.
Your Obedient Serpent: foodathelind on October 12th, 2011 11:22 pm (UTC)
Exercise is really my biggest issue right now (that, and lots of rich food in easy lunch proximity). Back in February, I started a job that's an unhealthy commute from where I'm living now. Four hours of sitting in the car on top of eight hours parked at a desk has left me precious little get-out-and-take-long-walks time.

Once I figure out some way around THAT little detail, I'll be fine. I just want to get shed of some of this extra girth before it settles in for the long haul.
azhdragonazhdragon on October 11th, 2011 11:00 pm (UTC)
six years ago I lost about 68 pounds eating with a simple guideline: "would my great grandmother have recognised this as food?"

so, lean meats (tick) vegetables (tick), (low fat) simple dairy - cheese, milk, butter (tick), fruits (tick), multigrain bread (tick).

processed food? no. instant "food"? no. takeaway food? no.

ok, so it meant I had to do more food prep, but it was a good diet. And I could easily stick to it. and it worked, about a pound a day at that time.

Another part of the equation was portion control. Use a smaller dinner plate - even if you have to go to a thrift shop to buy one. A serve of meat should be no larger than the size and thickness of your palm. Chicken and fish, a portion the size of your open hand. A potato should be no larger than your closed fist. (one potato per meal). Other vegetables - as much as you want, so long as it's either fresh or frozen. (not tinned). Fruit - one piece each of up to three kinds a day. No juice (which has as much or more calories as alcohol). Oh, and no alcohol. Bread - 2 slices or one roll per day, thinly buttered. Don't use butter or oil to cook in, use a spray of olive oil if necessary to prevent sticking.

And of course the last part of the equation was exercise. I walked for about half an hour a day, dragging a 40kg dog (or vice versa).

And it worked. When I saw my doctor he was amazed. I felt better and looked better than I had in years.

And the weight stayed off - though a bit has snuck back lately, but I still weigh a lot less than when I started six years ago. I'm trying to get back to my "great grandmother" diet, but it's hard to convince my partner, and too easy to go along with whatever she chooses to cook.
pseudo manitoupseudomanitou on October 12th, 2011 04:27 pm (UTC)
After being vegan for almost ten years, I can honestly say my diet has helped -- but it is my level of activity that keeps me healthy, not the diet alone.

Be careful not to buy into the notion that diet is a cure in of itself. Eat what you feel leaves you with energy enough to stay active. Make notes on what amounts and kinds of foods make you feel tired. You can eventually figure out your entire lifestyle just by listening to your body.
Your Obedient Serpent: ouroborosathelind on October 12th, 2011 11:26 pm (UTC)
See my comment to drleo, above. I've suddenly shifted into an exercise-is-difficult-to-come-by regime.

I've also just started with a new physician, who's decided that I need to both Cut Down On My Reflux Medicine AND Cut Carbs Out Of My Diet -- hence the surly food-related post. If he's talkin' sugars, fine; if he's telling me to eliminate high0fiber starches AND my proton-pump inhibitors, he'll be able to see just what effect it's having on my digestion by looking through the hole my stomach will eat in itself.